Using Programmatic to build podcast communities — Mike Wiston // mowMedia | mowPod

Mike Wiston, CEO of mowPod, examines whether people should be paying to have downloads of their podcast. Despite the potential for success, audio advertising is often underutilized in the podcast industry due to its complex nature. However, companies like mowPod are making it easier for podcasters to leverage programmatic advertising for podcast growth. Today, Mike discusses using programmatic advertising to build your podcast community.
About the speaker

Mike Wiston

mowPod

 - mowPod

Mike is the CEO of mowPod

Show Notes

  • 02:31
    How to build a community around your podcast
    To build the audience for Friday Night Karaoke, programmatic targeting and paid advertising were used on Facebook. They focused on retargeting and lookalike audiences and used their Facebook group to drive users to their content and collect audience feedback.
  • 06:03
    Driving your community to your podcast app
    Once youve built a community, you have a direct way to promote new episodes of your podcast. Chartable provides smart links that automatically route listeners of your podcast to their favorite apps.
  • 06:58
    The impact of social marketing strategies on podcast performance
    Migrating people from a page to a group can produce a significant impact when its done in a major wave. But, in general, the lift in downloads won't be that significant, and attribution can be difficult to track in terms of how listeners are accessing your podcasts.
  • 08:24
    Why mowPod is a growth engine for podcasts
    mowPod provides three different products for the podcasting space with different goals. They offer a download product, retention product, and an audio promo product as well.
  • 09:23
    Leveraging guest networks for podcast growth
    Friday Night Karaokes strategy involves inviting guests who have their own networks and communities to promote the episode. The podcast features 10 artists in each episode, allowing for exponential growth through referrals.
  • 10:51
    How to retain podcast listeners
    mowPod Audio allows you to insert dynamic ad slots within your podcast to match the listener based on programmatic criteria. The product also allows for the placement of your ads on other podcasts and audio properties to drive traffic back to your podcast.
  • 13:48
    The underutilization of audio advertising in the podcast industry
    Long-tail attribution is a major reason for the underutilization of audio advertising in the podcast industry. It is challenging to understand the origin of growth and track listeners who access podcasts through their preferred listening app.
  • 14:49
    The challenges of leveraging programmatic advertising for podcast growth
    Programmatic advertising can be challenging to use for podcast growth due to its complex nature, the need for data analysis, and results tracking. To be successful, focus on lookalike and retargeting audiences and data warehousing in order to identify effective strategies.

Quotes

  • "In a successful podcast, you get feedback from the audience. You can go into your Facebook group and let people know you've released a new episode." -Mike Wiston, CEO, mowPod

  • "In a Facebook group, you get feedback, which many podcasters just don't get. They're waiting around for an Apple review or a Spotify review to tell them what's going on. " -Mike Wiston, CEO, mowPod

  • "If you're getting 20 downloads per episode, you're going to see some big jumps if you bring 1000 new people into your group and you're promoting your podcast, especially if you have an engaged community. " -Mike Wiston, CEO, mowPod

  • "We have three different products in the podcasting space with different goals. We have a download product, a retention product, and an audio promo product as well." -Mike Wiston, CEO, mowPod

  • "We feature 10 different artists in each of our podcasts. So we have 10 different people going telling their grandmother, friends from college, and everybody, go listen to this episode I was featured on." -Mike Wiston, CEO, mowPod

About the speaker

Mike Wiston

mowPod

 - mowPod

Mike is the CEO of mowPod

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