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The marketing tactic everyone’s sleeping on right now
Direct mail conversion rates outperform email by 3x despite rising postal costs. Ryan Ferrier is CEO of Lob, the direct mail automation platform serving over 12,000 businesses including L'Occitane and SimpliSafe. The discussion covers AI-powered routing algorithms that optimize speed versus cost trade-offs, API-triggered mail campaigns based on digital events like cart abandonment, and QR…
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Pitch to a 25-year-old performance marketer to get them to test direct mail
Performance marketers struggle with direct mail attribution and speed. Ryan Ferrier is CEO of Lob, the direct mail automation platform serving over 12,000 businesses with API-driven personalized campaigns. The discussion covers AI-powered delivery optimization that automatically selects standard vs. first-class postage based on speed requirements, real-time address verification APIs that prevent undeliverable mail and save…
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One growth tactic that worked in 2015 that will still work in 2035
Direct mail automation struggles with speed and attribution challenges. Ryan Ferrier is CEO of Lob, the direct mail automation platform used by over 12,000 businesses to modernize physical mail campaigns. The discussion covers AI-powered routing algorithms that optimize speed versus cost trade-offs, API-triggered mail pieces that respond to digital events like cart abandonment, and QR…
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The most creative piece of direct mail
Direct mail conversion rates outperform email by 300%. Ryan Ferrier is CEO of Lob, the direct mail automation platform serving over 12,000 businesses including L'Occitane and SimpliSafe. His team discusses API-triggered mail campaigns that respond to cart abandonment within three days, AI algorithms that optimize postage costs by routing mail through national printer networks, and…
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AI Personalization in Direct Mail Campaigns
Direct mail faces attribution and personalization challenges despite rising investment. Ryan Ferrier is CEO of Lob, the direct mail automation platform serving over 12,000 businesses with API-driven mail campaigns. The discussion covers AI-powered routing algorithms that optimize speed versus cost trade-offs, personalized QR codes with custom landing pages achieving 5% average conversion rates, and automated…
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Unique Challenges in Building a Martech Company in 2026
MarTech vendors face an 8.6% annual churn rate despite AI expansion. Scott Brinker, VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot and founder of chiefmartec.com, explains how AI disruption is reshaping vendor strategies and market dynamics. He discusses context engineering as the evolution beyond prompt engineering, the shift from deterministic to adaptive AI workflows, and why 2026…
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The Year of Context Engineering
Marketing technology stacks are expanding faster than teams can manage them. Scott Brinker, VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot and founder of chiefmartec.com, explains how 5,384 martech tools now exist despite 8.6% vendor churn. He discusses context engineering as the evolution beyond prompt engineering, combining structured workflows with LLM capabilities for data analysis and customer…
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The Rise of AEO in 2026
Marketing technology strategy faces unprecedented complexity as AI transforms customer behavior. Scott Brinker, VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot and founder of chiefmartec.com, explains how 2026 will shift power from marketers to AI-empowered buyers. He covers context engineering as the evolution beyond prompt engineering, combining deterministic workflows with adaptive LLM capabilities for better data analysis…
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MarTech Insights and Highlights from 2025
MarTech faces an 8.6% vendor churn rate despite AI expansion. Scott Brinker, VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot and founder of chiefmartec.com, shares insights on navigating the evolving landscape where AI didn't consolidate MarTech but fragmented it further. He discusses context engineering as the evolution beyond prompt engineering, combining deterministic workflows with LLM capabilities for…
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Scott Brinker’s 2026 Martech Predictions Unpacked
MarTech stack complexity is exploding despite consolidation predictions. Scott Brinker, VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot and founder of chiefmartec.com, reveals why AI added 1,200 new vendors while eliminating just as many in 2025. He explains how agentic AI is shifting power from marketers to customers, breaking traditional sales playbooks as buyers use AI agents…
Play PodcastAbout Business Class: B2B
What is B2B (Business to Business)?
B2B or business-to-business refers to products and services that are designed, built, and marketed specifically for other businesses.
The Difference Between B2B and B2C (Business-to-consumer)
The main difference between B2B and B2C (Business-to-customer) is that B2B covers transactions that are done between companies as opposed to B2C, which categorizes transactions between a business and an individual customer.
B2B Marketing vs B2C Marketing
Many B2B marketers would argue B2B marketing is more complex than B2C marketing. Each market type has its own complexities.
Unlike B2C sales and marketing, which is oftentimes targeted toward persuading an individual customer to purchase a product or service, B2B sales and marketing are targeted toward convincing multiple customers such as an entire company and its stakeholders.
In the case of sales of B2B products and services, you not only need to convince the main decision-makers or buyers like the C-suite staff, but you also have to convince them that the entire department or company will benefit. Unlike most typical B2C businesses, the buyer in a B2B business is not the only one impacted by a purchase. It's oftentimes the entire company.
Faced with this challenge, many B2B companies focus heavily on generating high-quality B2B leads and ensuring their journey through the funnel is as efficient as possible to drive sales.
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How to generate B2B Leads & Sales
- Develop a Content Marketing Strategy:
- Create a strong B2B content marketing strategy that adds value to potential buyers, increases lead generation, and drives sales.
- Optimize your B2B Website:
- Set up your B2B website to a self-service where website visitors can be educated and B2B buyers are given the information needed for the decision-making process. Many B2B eCommerce websites have done this very well (e.g. Alibaba.com) where B2B customers can browse and purchase directly from the website.
- Offer a Free Trial:
- Offer a free trial period to new B2B customers. This permits them to use the product or service in the context of their business risk-free and helps potential customers make a decision if they are unsure. When businesses can easily see the impact your product or service has on their operations, you're more likely to obtain more sales.
- Provide Tutorials:
- Create a thorough tutorial system in order to guide the buyer through the product or service so that implementation is as smooth as possible.
B2B in the MarTech World
When people think of B2B, many think of it in the context of a traditional supply chain where a company making a physical product is purchasing components and raw materials from another company in order to sustain its manufacturing process.
The reality is that B2B exists in the digital world in much the same way that it exists in the physical world. Many of the stakeholders in corporate companies and start-ups rely on software built by other businesses in order to build their own digital products or services.
The combination of these various B2B MarTech tools is called their B2B MarTech stack.
How to build a B2B MarTech Stack
If you're building a B2B MarTech stack, there are a few categories that need to be covered. These include:
- Customer Relationship Management (CRM)
- Tracking relationships across your sales and marketing departments is essential. Your customer relationship management tool is key to doing so in order to nurture and convert B2B customers at various touchpoints. Consider using tools like Hubspot CRM, Salesforce, or SAP CRM.
- Marketing Automation
- With the evolution of data collection, consumers today expect more than just cookie-cutter ads that can apply to a large group of people. They want personalization. Nowadays, marketing automation tools like HubSpot, Marketo, and Pardot offer AI and machine learning feature to make it easier to personalize your communication.
- Content Marketing Management
- Content has been king and remains king. A robust content marketing management system is essential for a B2B marketing strategy. The best-in-class platforms offer a combination of workflow management, editorial calendars, and an array of features that make publishing content easy and efficient. Tools we recommend include Contently, DivvyHQ, and Kapost.
- Customer Data Platforms
- "Data is the new oil," is a common phrase marketers have encountered throughout the industry. Given its value, the unification and analysis of customer data should definitely be a priority for your company. Customer data platforms include tools like Segment, Optimove and Exponea.
The Importance of MarTech in B2B
By itself, B2B marketing is a relatively difficult task given it requires persuading a collection of people, such as teams and departments, at a time in order to make a sale. However, when put into the context of the present-day marketing and advertising industry, the rise in ad-blockers and the general disdain consumers have when it comes to being marketed to on social media and search, we see that executing B2B marketing end-to-end is growing increasingly difficult.
With negative sentiments surrounding advertising increasing, it's clear B2B marketers need to revise their approaches, and that approach is personalization.
In order to facilitate personalization, B2B marketers use MarTech tools, which help them access, organize, analyze, unify and action the data. The ability to personalize their marketing in this way allows them to craft outreach messages, nurture campaigns and calls-to-action that customers actually relate and respond to.
If you're interested in learning more about B2B, B2B marketing, B2B companies and B2B sales, check out the episodes listed below from the MarTech podcast.
They include interviews with marketers and influencers in the B2B MarTech industry who share their advice, strategy, and the best B2B tools on the market.
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