The Crisis Killing Your Creator Marketing ROI
- Part 1Why brand-owned content is marketing’s new frontier
- Part 2Data-driven Creative Content Strategy that’s transforming marketing
- Part 3CMOs brutal truth to describe Content Marketing in one word
- Part 4Performance Ads vs Influencers: Smart CMOs Reveal Where They’re Moving Their Budgets
- Part 5The Great Podcast Marketing Debate: Demand Creation vs Capture Strategy
- Part 6 The Crisis Killing Your Creator Marketing ROI
Episode Chapters
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00:00: Scaling Creator Challenges
The discussion explores what breaks first when B2B companies try to scale their creator content efforts, highlighting the difficulty in curating specialized creators.
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01:00: Quality Over Quantity
The conversation shifts to questioning why marketers focus on increasing creator volume rather than getting more value from existing creator relationships.
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02:00: Props Business Model
The guest explains how Props operates as a media company with content costs representing only about 10% of client engagements.
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03:00: Scaling Individual Creators
The discussion emphasizes the strategy of scaling individual creators rather than constantly finding new ones, focusing on deeper relationships.
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Episode Summary
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The Crisis Killing Your Creator Marketing ROI: Why Brand-Owned Content Is the New Frontier
Introduction
In today's digital landscape, traditional advertising is losing effectiveness as consumers increasingly ignore ads in favor of authentic content. Joseph Perello, founder and CEO of Props, joins the MarTech Podcast to explain how brands can transform creator marketing into a true performance cha el by focusing on owned media and strategic content distribution. With over 30 years of experience, including roles as New York City's first CMO under Mayor Bloomberg and executive positions at MBNA and The New York Yankees, Perello offers a fresh perspective on how marketers can drive measurable business outcomes through creator partnerships. -
The B2B Creator Content Challenge
For B2B companies attempting to scale their creator marketing efforts, the primary breaking point occurs in the curation and management of creators. Finding specialized creators with genuine subject matter expertise presents a significant challenge, particularly for niche B2B industries where credibility is paramount. Many marketing teams mistakenly focus on increasing the quantity of creators rather than maximizing the value of their existing creator relationships. This approach often leads to diminishing returns and fragmented messaging across cha els. -
Quality Over Quantity: The Strategic Shift
Perello challenges the conventional wisdom that successful creator marketing requires an extensive roster of influencers. "We're not in the business of getting 150 creators for a brand. We're in the business of getting maybe 10 and putting a million or two or $3 million media behind that," he explains. This approach emphasizes scaling individual creators rather than constantly expanding the creator pool, allowing brands to develop deeper relationships with fewer, more aligned partners who truly understand their value proposition. -
Transforming Content Into Performance
The Props model treats creator content not as a loss leader but as a strategic asset that can drive measurable business outcomes. By allocating approximately 10% of client engagement costs to content creation and the remainder to strategic distribution, Props helps brands amplify creator stories across platforms. This approach recognizes that consumers respond more positively to authentic stories than traditional advertisements, creating opportunities for brands to engage audiences in more meaningful ways. -
Cross-Cha el Content Optimization
Rather than finding new creators for each platform, marketers can achieve better results by helping successful creators expand their presence across cha els. This might involve supporting a podcast creator in developing a YouTube presence or adapting long-form content for social media platforms. This strategy maintains message consistency while leveraging the established credibility and audience trust of proven creator partners. -
Implementing an Owned Media Strategy
For marketers looking to improve their creator marketing ROI, the key lies in treating creator partnerships as owned media assets rather than one-off influencer campaigns. This requires a fundamental shift in how brands structure creator relationships, content development processes, and distribution strategies. By taking greater ownership of creator content and applying performance marketing principles to its distribution, brands can transform creator marketing from an awareness play into a genuine performance cha el. -
Conclusion
As traditional advertising continues to lose effectiveness, brand-owned creator content represents a powerful alternative for marketers seeking predictable business outcomes. By focusing on depth rather than breadth in creator relationships and applying strategic distribution tactics, brands can generate authentic content that resonates with audiences while driving measurable results. As Perello succinctly puts it, "People aren't responding to ads, they respond to stories" – and there's a way to leverage those stories for tangible business growth both on and off platform. -
- Part 1Why brand-owned content is marketing’s new frontier
- Part 2Data-driven Creative Content Strategy that’s transforming marketing
- Part 3CMOs brutal truth to describe Content Marketing in one word
- Part 4Performance Ads vs Influencers: Smart CMOs Reveal Where They’re Moving Their Budgets
- Part 5The Great Podcast Marketing Debate: Demand Creation vs Capture Strategy
- Part 6 The Crisis Killing Your Creator Marketing ROI
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Part 1Why brand-owned content is marketing’s new frontier
Traditional ads are failing while marketing budgets shrink. Joe Perello, CEO of Props, explains how to transform creator marketing into a measurable performance channel by hosting authentic content on your own website. His approach blends creator storytelling with paid social distribution, creating efficient retargeting pools that drive conversions while simultaneously improving performance across all marketing channels. The strategy positions brand content as a direct response mechanism, leveraging the brand halo effect to systematically lower customer acquisition costs over time.
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Part 2Data-driven Creative Content Strategy that’s transforming marketing
Creator marketing needs a performance-driven approach. Joseph Perello, CEO of Props, shares how his company transforms owned media into a measurable marketing channel that delivers predictable outcomes. He explains the strategic balance between video and image content for different marketing objectives, why traditional vanity metrics fall short, and how to blend creator authenticity with paid media precision to drive actionable results.
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Part 3CMOs brutal truth to describe Content Marketing in one word
Content marketing remains unmeasurable and "mushy" for most CMOs. Joe Perello, CEO of Props and former NYC CMO, shares how to transform creator marketing into a performance channel with measurable outcomes. He reveals techniques for achieving 55-65% open rates across client programs and explains why authentically integrated brand content consistently outperforms traditional advertising when paired with precise targeting and clear calls to action.
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Part 4Performance Ads vs Influencers: Smart CMOs Reveal Where They’re Moving Their Budgets
Performance marketing or influencer partnerships? Joe Perello, CEO of Props, reveals how smart marketers are blending creator content with paid media precision. His approach transforms creator marketing into a true performance channel by maintaining full accountability for business results rather than chasing viral hits. Perello demonstrates how owned media content delivers authentic engagement while providing the targeting capabilities and measurable outcomes of traditional performance marketing.
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Part 5The Great Podcast Marketing Debate: Demand Creation vs Capture Strategy
Demand creation vs. demand capture: which podcast strategy wins? Joe Perello, CEO of Props and former NYC CMO, shares his expertise on turning creator marketing into a performance channel. He explains why brand-owned content is the new frontier for predictable marketing outcomes, demonstrates how to blend creator authenticity with paid media precision, and reveals techniques for converting podcast listeners into qualified leads without relying on traditional metrics.
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Part 6The Crisis Killing Your Creator Marketing ROI
Creator marketing ROI is in crisis. Joseph Perello, CEO of Props, explains how to transform creator content into a performance channel by blending human storytelling with paid media precision. He reveals why scaling individual creators (rather than expanding creator volume) delivers better results, and demonstrates how owned media can drive measurable business outcomes beyond traditional vanity metrics.