Top AI Thought Leaders Marketing Should Know
- Part 1AI Agents for marketing automation
- Part 2Custom AI Agents vs Out-of-the-Box Tools
- Part 3Will AI Replace Marketing Jobs by 2028?
- Part 4How Marketing Leaders Must Evolve for Agentic AI
- Part 5Top AI Thought Leaders Marketing Should Know
- Part 6Will AI Replace Marketing Jobs by 2028?
- Part 7Custom AI Agents vs Out-of-the-Box Tools
- Part 8How Marketing Leaders Must Evolve for Agentic AI
- Part 9 Top AI Thought Leaders Marketing Should Know
Episode Chapters
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00:24: AI Content Discovery Algorithms
Platform algorithms can effectively curate AI-related content when users demonstrate genuine curiosity and engagement with the subject matter.
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00:54: Matthew Berman's Technical Balance
A recommended AI thought leader who successfully delivers technical content that remains consumable and impactful without being overly complex or boring.
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01:16: Marketing Against the Grain
HubSpot's internal podcast provides practical, task-oriented tips for business professionals and marketers begi ing their AI implementation journey.
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01:43: Bridging Traditional and AI Workflows
Discussion of resources that help teams transition from conventional marketing approaches to AI-enhanced methodologies and philosophies.
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Episode Summary
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Most AI content I see is either too technical or too fluffy. Finding the right balance is harder than it looks.Nicholas Holland from HubSpot nailed something important when we talked about AI thought leaders. He called it "getting the fidelity right" - consumable, technical, impactful, but not overly technical or boring.That's the challenge.You want to understand AI's impact on marketing, but most content either assumes you're a data scientist or treats you like you've never used email.Nicholas shared his go-to sources for staying current without drowning in jargon.**Matthew Berman** stands out. Nicholas has followed him since their 500 Startups days a decade ago. Now Berman runs Forward Future - a podcast and newsletter that threads the needle between accessible and substantive. Nicholas listens to him "pretty much every day."**Marketing Against the Grain** (HubSpot's podcast with Kip and Kieran) takes a different approach. They focus on task-oriented tips - actual things you can implement tomorrow.The difference matters.Berman helps you understand where AI is heading. Marketing Against the Grain shows you what to do about it today.Here's what struck me: Nicholas called out the algorithms as teachers. Show genuine curiosity about AI on any platform, and the algorithm becomes your curator. It's meta - using AI to learn about AI.But you still need human filters.The best AI thought leaders aren't just explaining technology. They're translating between worlds - technical enough to be credible, practical enough to be useful.That's rare.What's your experience? Who helps you make sense of AI without making your head spin?If you'd like to hear my conversation with Nicholas Holland on the MarTech Check One Podcast, let me know in the comments and I'll share a link.
- Part 1AI Agents for marketing automation
- Part 2Custom AI Agents vs Out-of-the-Box Tools
- Part 3Will AI Replace Marketing Jobs by 2028?
- Part 4How Marketing Leaders Must Evolve for Agentic AI
- Part 5Top AI Thought Leaders Marketing Should Know
- Part 6Will AI Replace Marketing Jobs by 2028?
- Part 7Custom AI Agents vs Out-of-the-Box Tools
- Part 8How Marketing Leaders Must Evolve for Agentic AI
- Part 9 Top AI Thought Leaders Marketing Should Know
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Part 1AI Agents for marketing automation
Nicholas, Head of AI at HubSpot discusses AI Agents for marketing automation.
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Part 2Custom AI Agents vs Out-of-the-Box Tools
Custom AI agents vs. out-of-the-box tools: which delivers better ROI? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, shares his expertise on the evolution of AI agents in marketing automation. He recommends starting with pre-built AI tools before attempting custom development, emphasizing the importance of mastering prompt engineering and data integration first. Holland outlines a practical progression path from using AI for basic tasks to implementing complex automated workflows that can transform marketing operations.
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Part 3Will AI Replace Marketing Jobs by 2028?
Will AI replace marketing jobs by 2028? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, examines the evolution of AI agents and their impact on marketing automation. He explores how agentic AI is fundamentally changing marketing workflows, team structures, and job functions. Holland also shares insights on staying current with AI developments through content creators like Matthew Berman who balance technical depth with practical business applications.
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Part 4How Marketing Leaders Must Evolve for Agentic AI
AI agents are reshaping marketing automation. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains the shift from managing people to orchestrating AI agents. He emphasizes that current AI technology isn't the bottleneck - rather, organizations need structured frameworks for agent management, clear guidelines for implementation, and new metrics for evaluating management effectiveness in hybrid human-AI teams.
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Part 5Top AI Thought Leaders Marketing Should Know
AI agents are transforming how marketing teams operate and scale. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains the evolution from simple automation to intelligent systems that can reason and act independently. He covers HubSpot's approach to building AI agents that handle complex customer interactions, the technical architecture required for agent-to-agent communication, and practical frameworks for implementing AI agents that actually improve marketing ROI rather than just adding complexity.
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Part 6Will AI Replace Marketing Jobs by 2028?
AI agents are replacing traditional marketing automation workflows. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains how agentic AI systems autonomously execute complex marketing tasks without human intervention. Holland discusses HubSpot's AI-powered engagement hubs that automatically manage customer interactions, Smart CRM systems that predict and respond to buyer behavior, and connected ecosystem strategies that leverage over 1,700 marketplace integrations for seamless automation.
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Part 7Custom AI Agents vs Out-of-the-Box Tools
Marketing teams face a critical choice between custom AI agents and out-of-the-box solutions. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains why most marketers should start with ready-made tools before attempting custom builds. He recommends beginning with simple prompt engineering in ChatGPT or Claude for email responses, then progressing to data integration and contact management. Custom agent development requires long-term maintenance resources that most teams underestimate.
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Part 8How Marketing Leaders Must Evolve for Agentic AI
Marketing teams face a fundamental shift from managing people to managing AI agents. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains how agentic AI is transforming marketing automation beyond current tool capabilities. He outlines structured frameworks for training and managing AI agents, orchestration systems that coordinate multiple AI workflows, and management approaches that treat agents with the same rigor as human team members.
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Part 9Top AI Thought Leaders Marketing Should Know
AI agents are replacing traditional marketing automation workflows. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains how agentic AI systems autonomously execute complex marketing tasks without human intervention. He recommends following Matthew Berman's Forward Future content for technical AI insights and HubSpot's Marketing Against the Grain for practical implementation strategies that bridge traditional marketing approaches with AI-powered automation.