Unit economics deciphering the state of SaaS

Randy Wootton, CEO of Maxio, delves into what drives SaaS success. In the last two years, there's been a shift in the landscape of SaaS. It seems the days of growth at all costs are over, and instead, there's a growing emphasis on efficient growth, leading to a change in the metrics for marketers and SaaS business valuations. Today, Randy discusses how we can decipher the state of SaaS.
About the speaker

Randy Wootton

Maxio

 - Maxio

Randy is CEO of Maxio

B2B SaaS Businesses Growth Report

Show Notes

  • 01:37
    An overview of the Maxio platform
    Maxio is a billing and financial operations platform that helps companies collect billing and invoicing data to shape business strategies. As a user in his previous CEO role, Maxio changed the way Randy thought about managing business operations and being a CEO.
  • 02:43
    Maxios Growth Report and research
    Maxio uses its unique access to billing and invoicing data to monitor growth rates in SMB and midmarket companies. Maxios quarterly reports provide timely insights for CEOs and CFOs to triangulate on their performance compared to a cohort, manage the board, and set targets.
  • 05:04
    Insights from Maxio's Growth Report
    The report helps people understand growth rates in their segments, providing benchmarks for comparison. It shows that while growth rates were high in 2020 and 2021, they've now stabilized around 15-20%, indicating a shift in what's considered strong growth for companies.
  • 06:59
    The shift from growth at all costs to efficient growth
    Companies are shifting from prioritizing growth at any expense to focusing on efficient growth. They're using metrics like the rule of 40, which combines growth rate with EBITDA margin, to make strategic investments rather than pursuing growth without regard for profitability.
  • 08:20
    Use cases of growth data
    Growth data helps companies decide between high growth or efficient growth and helps investors determine the investment potential of companies. It's also crucial for setting expectations with investors and securing funding and valuations for future growth.
  • 10:54
    What investors look for in companies
    Investors typically prioritize growth over EBITDA margin for valuations. They favor companies with a replicable GTM engine to acquire new customers using the new CAC ratio, low customer churn, and an expansion strategy for sustainable growth.
  • 12:32
    CAC ratio dynamics in a recession
    In competitive markets, it's common for companies to invest more than $1 to acquire $1 of ARR. The goal is to retain and expand that ARR over time, balancing the initial investment with long-term profitability, and ensuring that the CAC payback period aligns with customer retention.
  • 14:57
    Investing strategically in B2B SaaS marketing
    Marketers should focus on allocating their budget wisely across people, technology, and programs. They should balance investments between demand creation and demand capture, ensuring they adapt their strategy based on their brand's stage and market presence.
  • 18:49
    Balancing art and science in marketing
    Marketing is a blend of art and science, requiring both creativity and analytical skills. Effective marketing involves brand awareness, demand creation, and data-driven investments across channels to fill out the funnel and reach more potential customers efficiently.
  • 22:29
    Content led growth and thought leadership
    Building thought leadership pillars requires patience, time, and unique data for compelling storytelling. Content-led growth, though challenging, is a key differentiator in a crowded market.

Quotes

  • "There was a 31% year-over-year growth in Q2 of 2022 across our broad set of customers. at the end of q4 of 2023, that growth rate had dropped to about 17%. The new normal is somewhere between 15% and 20% growth." - Randy Wootton

  • "Implementing metrics like the rule of 40 to signal efficient growth, rather than pursuing growth at any expense, marks a significant shift in strategy observed over the past two years." - Randy Wootton

  • "New investors are coming in to fund future growth. You must be able to show you're either a high growth company or an efficient growth company." - Randy Wootton

  • "Future investors want to see that your GTM engine is replicable, that you've addressed churn, and that you have an expansion motion." - Randy Wootton

  • "B2B tech has under-invested in demand creation. It's a 50/50 between demand creation and demand capture. I would bet if most B2B marketers look at their budget, its probably 80/20 demand capture vs. demand creation." - Randy Wootton

About the speaker

Randy Wootton

Maxio

 - Maxio

Randy is CEO of Maxio

B2B SaaS Businesses Growth Report
Related Podcasts by Category

Up Next: