What is your automaton tech-stack?

Marketers struggle to build effective AI automation stacks that actually drive results. Charlie Grinnell, Co-CEO of RightMetric, explains how external data transforms AI accuracy and marketing strategy. The conversation covers building custom agents for networking automation, developing video analysis tools that map viewer engagement frame-by-frame, and creating visual hooks that compete with brands like MrBeast and Red Bull.

Episode Chapters

  • 00:26: Personal Networking Automation Agent

    A custom AI agent automatically identifies relevant networking contacts in upcoming travel destinations based on relationship strength and relevance, sending personalized outreach recommendations via email.

  • 01:02: Video Performance Analysis Tool

    RightMetric's custom agent analyzes video content frame-by-frame, mapping visual elements like shot types and editing patterns against performance data to identify what drives viewer engagement and retention.

  • 01:44: Visual Hooks and Content Strategy

    Discussion of how successful content creators use visual and written hooks to maintain viewer attention, emphasizing the importance of continuous re-engagement throughout content to prevent audience drop-off.

  • 03:02: Thumbnail Teams at Scale

    Major brands like Mr. Beast and Red Bull employ dedicated thumbnail teams rather than individual designers, highlighting the competitive landscape content creators face when trying to capture audience attention.

Episode Summary

  • What is Your Automation Tech Stack?

    Introduction

    Charlie Gri ell, Co-CEO of RightMetric, brings a unique perspective to marketing automation by focusing on external data signals that most marketers overlook. With experience leading marketing at Red Bull and Aritzia, Gri ell has built RightMetric to help brands like Meta and lululemon decode what audiences actually do online. His approach challenges the conventional wisdom that first-party data alone is sufficient for modern marketing success.
  • Building Intelligent Automation Agents

    Gri ell's automation philosophy centers on creating agents that solve specific, high-value problems. His personal networking agent exemplifies this approach - by simply adding a location to his calendar, the system automatically identifies relevant contacts in that city based on relationship strength and relevance. "I just put a location in my calendar and I don't do anything and then I get an email with, here's who you should reach out to in that city," Gri ell explains. This type of automation eliminates manual research while maintaining the personal touch essential for business relationships.
  • Advanced Video Analysis Through AI

    RightMetric's video analyzer represents a sophisticated application of AI in content optimization. The tool watches videos frame by frame, identifying whether content is live action or animation, tracking cut patterns, and distinguishing between product close-ups and wide shots. This granular analysis maps directly to performance data, revealing precisely where viewers engage or drop off.
  • Co ecting Visual Elements to Performance

    The real power of this automation lies in its ability to correlate specific visual elements with viewer behavior. By understanding which on-screen elements drive engagement, content creators can architect videos that maintain audience attention throughout. This data-driven approach moves beyond guesswork to provide actionable insights for content optimization.
  • The Science of Content Hooks and Retention

    Gri ell emphasizes that successful content requires both written and visual hooks, with the first frame and initial seconds being critical for retention. However, the challenge extends beyond the opening - marketers must continuously re-hook viewers throughout the content. "They are just waiting for something that makes them swipe away," he notes, highlighting the need for consistent engagement points.
  • Learning from Content Leaders

    The commitment to visual optimization at leading brands demonstrates the importance of this approach. Mr. Beast and Red Bull don't just have thumbnail specialists - they have entire thumbnail teams dedicated to optimizing visual hooks. This level of investment in seemingly small details reflects the competitive reality of modern content marketing, where brands compete directly with entertainment platforms like Netflix for audience attention.
  • Key Takeaways for Marketing Automation

    Gri ell's approach to automation demonstrates three critical principles for modern marketers. First, effective automation solves specific, high-value problems rather than attempting to automate everything. Second, combining external data with AI creates insights that internal data alone ca ot provide. Third, successful content optimization requires treating every element - from thumbnails to transitions - as opportunities for data-driven improvement. By focusing on these areas, marketers can build automation stacks that deliver measurable business impact while competing effectively in an attention-scarce environment.
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