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Kelly Hopping | 6sense
How to Become a Five-Time CMO
AI gives confident answers without the context to back them up. Kelly Hopping, four-time CMO and current CMO at 6sense, breaks down where AI's missing context creates risk for go-to-market teams. She explains how GTM intelligence platforms fill gaps that generic AI models miss, why context depth matters more than model size, and what marketers…
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When Every Dashboard Is Green and Nothing Works
AI dashboards can look perfect while missing critical context. Kelly Hopping, CMO at 6sense and four-time marketing executive, explains how confidently wrong AI outputs mislead go-to-market teams. She points to closing the context gap in AI models, validating AI-driven insights against real buyer signals, and building go-to-market intelligence that accounts for the full customer journey,…
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Have You Read What Your AI Is Sending?
AI segments and messages without full context can be confidently wrong. Kelly Hopping, four-time CMO and CMO at 6sense, explains why more automation doesn't equal more pipeline. She breaks down multi-touch attribution across a six-month lookback, the shift from bottom-of-funnel demand gen to owned content that surfaces in LLM answers, and using gifting for deal…
Play PodcastIsaac Ferreira | Shift Paradigm
Is the future all about marketing to machines?
AI agents are replacing humans as the primary marketing audience. Isaac Ferreira, VP of Growth Systems and AI at Shift Paradigm, has spent 25 years building growth systems across defense, healthcare, and enterprise technology. He explains how brands need to build AI awareness and visibility so agents recommend them during customer queries. He breaks down…
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Should companies focus on building their own intelligence layer?
Companies need their own AI intelligence layer, not just API access. Isaac Ferreira, VP of Growth Systems and AI at Shift Paradigm, breaks down why proprietary operating context matters more than model choice. He explains how enterprise AI accounts avoid training data leakage, why businesses should build fallback capability across multiple models, and when locally…
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One AI capability marketers are consistently overestimating today
Marketers assume AI understands business context automatically. Isaac Ferreira, VP of Growth Systems and AI at Shift Paradigm, explains why that assumption fails without proper training. He breaks down giving off-the-shelf AI tools business-specific context, setting operational constraints, and building governance frameworks before deploying them at scale.
Play PodcastKatrina Wong | New Relic
One piece of marketing technology you think most teams could stop paying for tomorrow
Marketing teams keep paying for tools they no longer need. Katrina Wong, Chief Marketing Officer at New Relic, explains why AI is replacing entire categories of MarTech software. Her team canceled a competitive intelligence subscription after building roughly 85 AI agents to gather and organize the same data. The output now feeds one-pagers and an…
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One metric acquirers scrutinize that most marketers completely overlook
Rising AI costs are quietly eroding marketing's bottom line. Katrina Wong, Chief Marketing Officer at New Relic, has led seven successful exits and now factors AI spend directly into cost of goods sold. She breaks down the buy-versus-build decision for AI agents, explains why New Relic won't automate end-to-end campaigns yet, and shares how her…
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Changes to how you’ll spend a marketing budget
AI adoption is upending marketing budgets. Katrina Wong, Chief Marketing Officer at New Relic, brings 20+ years leading marketing and go-to-market strategy across enterprise tech companies including Twilio Segment, Hired, Zuora, Salesforce, and SAP. She discusses experimenting with OpenAI's ChatGPT app program despite unproven ROI, treating emerging AI platforms as a budget hypothesis rather than…
Play PodcastBrendan Farnand | Knak
The marketing workflow that will disappear completely over the next 3 years
Most marketing campaign workflows will disappear within three years. Brendan Farnand, Co-founder and Chief Evangelist at Knak, spent the past year talking with over 100 enterprise marketing teams—including OpenAI, Google, Stripe, and AT&T—to learn where AI helps campaign production and where it breaks. He explains what separates companies experimenting with AI from the ones actually…
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